Ep.20- Coming Out Of the Darkness, Through Forgiveness

Today I am joined by Nikki Patrick, and she shares her inspirational journey through the darkness and into the light. She has done tremendous work to process her childhood traumas and has found her purpose in helping others see through the darkness to the freedom on the other side. Forgiveness and unconditional love are the way through to your healing. Listen in as Nikki shares her story and wisdom with us.

 

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Nikki Patrick-Swartz is a Certified Hypnotherapist, Reiki Master & Sound Healing Practitioner from Easton Maryland. Her passion is helping others find a way out of their darkness and into a life they absolutely love. She spent many years battling mental illness, abuse, trauma, addiction, and the stigmas associated with those struggles. Her story truly is one of inspiration and success as she has overcome tremendous hardships and completely turned her life around for the better.

https://www.livinginthesolution.net/

 

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Transcript
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I know you, you’re afraid to speak up.

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You’re scared of what other people think of you. And you

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blame yourself for what happened to you. I know how it feels.

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Because I’ve been there. If you found me, I’m so grateful you

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are here. This podcast will give you hope. And I’m your host in a

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made ANOVA. And I’m going to hold your hand and provide the

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guidance. It’s time for you to find your why. And turn your

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experience into your biggest power. This is your time now. So

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lock your door, put your headphones in, and enjoy. Nikki

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Patrick, welcome to the world’s best Trauma Recovery podcast.

Nikki Patrick:

Thank you. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Anna Maydonova:

Niki, I’m so glad to have you on my podcast,

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because your story is incredible. And it is such a

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inspiring and empowering for those who went through a sexual

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childhood sexual abuse and being addicted to being addicted

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beyond and trying to escape. Nikki, I would really love to

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hear more about your story. But before I want to, I want to ask

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you if you could tell us what, what is your purpose in this

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life?

Nikki Patrick:

Hmm. I feel like my I’ve been on a journey,

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searching for what my purpose is these past few years. And I

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definitely feel as if my purpose in this life is to help others

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heal from their trauma as well. And find a way out of the

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darkness. I was stuck in the darkness for many, many years.

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And I didn’t know how to get out of it. And so I just kept trying

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to escape any way that I could. And finally, I was brought to my

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knees you know, you reach bottom, and there’s nowhere else

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to go. So it was either die or, or live or choose life. And so I

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feel like now that I have been able to successfully pull myself

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out of that. I want to help others do the same.

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What an amazing purpose. And how did you come to

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this point? Could you tell us a bit more about your childhood?

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And yes, was happening?

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Yes, I would love to, um, it’s finally a story that I

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can tell without any emotional charge behind it. And I was so I

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was the firstborn of my mom. And my mother and father. They

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married very young, they weren’t probably ready. But my mom came

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from a very abusive home, alcoholic home where there was a

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lot of narcissism, a lot of physical abuse, mental abuse,

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emotional abuse. And from what I’m understanding, because she’s

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no longer with us, she was also sexually abused. And she was

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it’s rumored that she was passed around knowingly passed around

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to my grandfather’s friends as a young teenager, so they could

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have their way with her. And so I believe that her trauma, her

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unprocessed trauma was the reason why she behaved the way

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she did and raised me and my brother the way she did, which

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was very in a very dysfunctional way. She just never back then.

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And in the 60s and the 70s, you didn’t really admit to having

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mental illness, you didn’t really know there was no help.

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You know, there was no real help for people who had been through

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that type of trauma, and to even admit it would be admitting

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weakness. And that I think, was a belief of hers that she didn’t

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want to look at that, you know. So she herself did a lot of

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drugs to cover up her pain. There was a lot of manipulation,

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a lot of paranoia, a lot of there’s a lot, you know, going

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on with her that was unable to be treated. And so when I tell

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this story, I want to start off by saying that I have come to a

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place where I’ve been able to forgive my mother and love her

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and understand and have compassion and empathy for her

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as an abuser. First person, you know, as a victim of trauma and

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childhood trauma. And so when I was born, she had married my

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father to escape the farm that my grandparents lived on. And we

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grew up on a working farm, we had 1000 hogs and 40,000,

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chickens and horses and cows that it was a very big ordeal.

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And so she needed to get out of that life. So she married my

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father, who was in the military. And so it seemed like a really

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good way out. But they did not get along at all. She had me and

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then two years later had my brother. And she was not

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prepared at he or she was 18. When she had me, she was not

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prepared, I think for the responsibility of a child and I

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was a very hyper child. I was very active. I was into

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everything. And I think that also added a lot of stress to

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her life. So my mother, she was a very, for the first seven

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years of my life, she was like a practicing witch. And then she

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became this born again, Bible thumping Christian. And I think

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she was in the Pentecostal denomination of that. And so,

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after my father and hers, marriage was so violent, he

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broke her jaw, they were always fighting. They were always

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throwing things. And I remember dishes being broken. I remember

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my father, you know, he was a workaholic, he worked a lot, he

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wasn’t home to give her attention and things like that.

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But also, my father had his own issues as well, he drank, he was

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an alcoholic, and he he would be very controlling, we weren’t

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allowed to make noise. When we ate at the dinner table, we

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could make noise when we drank anything. And so I was, I think

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five and my brother was three, I remember this, this memory of my

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father, my brother making noise, you know, when he was eating,

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smacking his lips and making noise. And my father had, I

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guess, told us so many times. So he snatches my brother up and

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beats the shit out of him. And I was powerless, I was screaming

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and crying for my brother and trying to protect him. And there

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was, you know, this big huge fight. And I just remember, you

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know, everything being ruined, going, you know, having to go to

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bed and, and not eating dinner. And so

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those types of that was it was that kind of violence in the

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home, always yelling, always screaming, there was no safe

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place. When I started kindergarten, it was only half

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day, but I didn’t want to go. I didn’t want to, even though home

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was violent. I didn’t want to be away from home. I was very

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traumatized as a young child, but not knowing that, you know,

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I mean, this was in the 70s. So they finally divorced when I was

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six. And my mother immediately went to the next guy, and she

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married him. And he was a big time drug dealer. And she was I

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think she was doing drugs. I don’t know, she kept it very

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secret, but I’m pretty sure from what people tell me she was on

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drugs. And she was doing a lot of cocaine. And so that made her

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very violent as well. So we, I mean, I remember getting beat

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with extension cords and hair brushes and shoes, and whatever

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she could hit us with. There was one time where I was playing in

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the front yard, just minding my business, I had this little

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metal milk crate, you know, and I was playing with my dog babies

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in this, you know, milk crate, and the dogs come running around

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from the backyard, they had let the dogs out. And they trampled

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over me. And I was pushed into this metal milk crate, and my

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ribs were broken, while I was crying, and crying and like

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upset and my mother comes and she smacks me in the face. And

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she says, pull it together. You are You know, before I give you

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something really to cry about. And she didn’t know at the time

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my ribs were broken. But I remember going into my room and

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thinking, Why doesn’t she love me? Why How could How could she?

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How could she be like this to her daughter? How could How

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could she not love me? And I assigned that meaning? I I

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remember thinking I hated her and I was so angry and I hated

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her. And I was I I just saw and cried and lay there in my bed

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and pain. And I just remember thinking I hate you. I hate You

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I hate you. And it wasn’t until hours later that I was finally

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taken to the hospital. And they did X rays and found out that I

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had broke my ribs. So of course, then she was all apologetic. It

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was like this, this Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde with her, you never

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knew what you were going to get. And I had to quickly learn how

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to gauge your room when I walked in, because I never knew if she

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was going to be nice. Or if she was going to be this raging,

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angry person, you know, that marriage didn’t last long. And

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then she moved on to the next marriage, we moved a lot, I went

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to a different school every year, we oftentimes I would come

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home and there wouldn’t be any lights, the electric would be

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turned off, or there’d be an eviction notice on the door

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because we wouldn’t have been able to pay the rent. And so we

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lived in people’s basements, I remember living in a basement of

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a friend’s house, and it would flood when it would rain. So we

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were on pallets. And that were just a little bit above the

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floor, on with sleeping bags, and this was our bed, and then

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water would come in and flood our whole sleeping area. So it

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was it was very much there was no security or stability in my

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life as a child. And so I was expected to go to school and

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learn and and pay attention and focus. And I just couldn’t do

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it. Like I was really struggling in school. And because I was

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expected to bring home good grades, and there was no

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understanding of what I was experiencing at the time, I

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would get in trouble I would get beat if I didn’t bring home or

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wasn’t on on a roll or bring home a good grade. So I learned

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quickly how to cheat and how to just get by, you know, with the

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skin of my teeth. And so the third husband was a very mean

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and violent man. This is when she became the born again,

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Christian. And we were going to we there was a church, it’s

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local to hear. We had to go to church, every time there was

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church, everything. Because she was a practicing witch before

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she became a Christian. Everything was about spiritual

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warfare, everything was about demons. And she took us to be

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exercised by a priest and have the demons removed from us.

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Every punishment then became in the name of God. You know, it

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was very sick, very sick and twisted. We had a she had a

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paddle. The paddle, it was painted on the panel was a

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little girl sitting on a bench looking sad. And it said spare

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the rod spoil the child. And that was the panel she beat us

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with that they well they beat us with and so they would line. So

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it was me and my brother, but then my mother said, Oh, I can

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help other children through this church. And so she took in other

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troubled kids not through the state, but through this

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dysfunctional church, you know, and thought she was doing God’s

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work. And there was 11 of us at one time in the house. And they

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used to line us up and just beat us for you know, spank us with

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this paddle. If one person was bad, we all got in trouble. She

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made us. This is so crazy. She made us write down we had an

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assign one time she said everybody sit down at the table

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she made us write us the worst punishment we could possibly

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think of. And she was like, if you don’t do it, right, you’re

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gonna get in trouble. So I wrote 10 wax with a paddle by each

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child to the person who got in trouble. And so my stepbrother

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had gotten in trouble so badly that he had to pull out of this.

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They called it the it was like this wicker angel that sat on

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the mantel. And it was a just a tchotchkes a little mantelpiece,

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you know. And so she put all her folded up pieces of paper inside

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of this angel and called the angel of death. And he had to

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pick out of that, and he picked that one. And so we all had this

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to beat him with this paddle. And I remember thinking to

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myself, oh my god, he must be hurting so bad. I’m going to hit

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him lower on his legs. So just to give his butt some rest, you

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know. And so, after it was over, of course, he couldn’t go to

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school for a week because he was bruised. He couldn’t even sit

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down. He had to lay on his stomach. And so I got in

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trouble. It was my fault that he couldn’t go to school because I

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hit him lower on his legs and I bruised him. And then it was the

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kids. The other kids were like, well, who wrote that? And I was

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like, Well, I did. You know, it was just following the rules. So

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I became the They were, you know, that was my fault as well

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from their perspective. So a lot of things were blamed on me,

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throughout this whole experience, you know, have, I

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tried to run away and I was always brought back. Then

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finally, I, when I was like, I think 13 or 14, their marriage

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wasn’t working out. Again, we had been moving here and there,

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and here and there. And I think they’re 14, I smoked pot for the

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first time. And, like, right after that, I did some other

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drugs, I tried cocaine, I tried meth. And so that was the

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beginning of my drug use to escape. And so instead of

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getting any kind of help, I just use drugs. And so starting from

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like, the age of 14, I became sexually active. I became, you

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know, I started using drugs, I started partying all the time,

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this is like in the late 80s, early 90s, I became, I had to

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start working at 13 to help pay the bills because she had left

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him

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finally, and she got with another guy who was 11 years

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younger than her. So she kept getting with these men over and,

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you know, I mean, it was it, she couldn’t be alone, it was always

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had to be validated by some form, have a relationship with

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another man. And we came second to that. And so there was a lot

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of times where we didn’t have food, we ate like, I remember,

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there was a week where we had zucchini every single day.

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That’s it nothing else, because that’s all they could afford to

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get from, like the local farmers market or whatever food banks,

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you know what I mean? So it was very food was very scarce. And I

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remember finally, when I started working, she would take my

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paychecks. And she would be like, you have to start helping

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to contribute to the household. At 13 years old, I wasn’t even

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legal to work. And I was working under the table at a restaurant

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washing dishes, to help out with the family. So very quickly,

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responsibility was dumped on my shoulders as a child, I remember

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to at 10 years old, she took in a brother, two brothers one was

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too and the other one was four days old. The mother was in

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prison. And she had the baby in prison, and my mom’s had the

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baby. And well, at 10 years old, it was my responsibility to get

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up for midnight feedings to change the baby to take care of

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the baby, because she had to get up and work all day long. Thank

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God, my stepfather was a truck driver, and he was gone for the

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whole week, you’d only be home on the weekend. So that was

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great. Because as long as he wasn’t in the house, it was

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great. So at 10 years old, I knew how to cook full family

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dinners. Do you know household chores and take care of this

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baby this infant that was only 10 years or you know that was

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only four days old when we got him. And again, like still this

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this very angry perspective, you know, I mean of God, a punishing

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God, a vengeful God a judging God, you know what I mean? It

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was all that was what we were taught, you know. And so, to me,

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that never resonated with me. I was like, That just doesn’t make

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sense. This can’t be right. So I I separated from God, when as

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soon as I was as soon as she left him, and that was no longer

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her her thing anymore. I was like, Screw this, I’m out of

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this religious stuff, you know? And I really like I really

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thought, like, what kind of God would allow me to go through

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this, you know, what kind of God would would be okay with this,

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you know, and so I really separated myself even further

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from God and I started to act out sexually. There is some

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instance now I can’t remember everything. But I know that

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there was always people around, she was partying a lot. And

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there was people in and out of the house and there was men

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around who were inappropriate, you know, with me as a child,

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and I would always, you know, feel uncomfortable and get up

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and run away, but they were very touchy feely in an inappropriate

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way with a child, you know. And so, what had had my experience

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with sexual abuse is my father inappropriately touched me as

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well. Made me feel very uncomfortable. He used to make

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me massage his legs, and all the way into the groin area and then

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he would want to do my Do you know? Yes, and and so when he

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would do that to me, he would slide in between, you know, my

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lips down there. And so, finally I had had enough and I was just

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like, I can’t take this anymore. And I told my mom, and I begged

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my mother not to call the police. I begged her, I was

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like, I just don’t want to go back over there, please, just

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remove me, you know, I mean, I just don’t want to go now. He

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denied it. Ever. No. And on it, once again, I’m you know, I was

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blamed my stepmother, my brother, my stepbrother,

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everybody, because he denied it, you know, I was just causing

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trouble. Because at this time, by this time, I’m really

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troubled, you know, I’m getting into trouble, I would have run

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away a few times. I wasn’t doing that great in school.

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So I was just acting out, you know, just trying to get the

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attention that I needed. But she has was so good at manipulation

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and brainwashing that she was terrified of social services

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coming in, and oh, if they take you away, it’s gonna be way

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worse than what you have here. And the fear of the unknown, you

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know. So, as I tried to heal from that, I ended up on some

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psych meds, and that didn’t go over well. And I ended up in the

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psych ward for trying to take too many of my pills. I wanted

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to die, you know. And so that was at, I think, 14 was my first

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time in an institution. It was the beginning, then 15 was my

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first time in rehab. And I tried to stay clean after that, but it

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just, I just wasn’t in the right environment. I was doing a lot

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of LSD, a lot of drinking. I was doing all manner of drugs to

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escape and to get away, you know. So the this fourth husband

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that my mom was, he was a crackhead. He liked to smoke

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crack, and he drank alcohol and he would spend our money and he

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ended up ripping off some one of the bigger drug dealers. And so

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we had to move out of state. And so we moved to Tennessee, which

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totally, you know, turned my world upside down again. And so

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I became more and more sexually active seeking out this love and

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this attention and this affection from anybody who would

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give it to me, you know, boys my age, of course, I didn’t really

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go for older guys, because I guess the father figures in my

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life had completely turned me off. So I wanted to be, you

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know, with guys my age. But I was totally like, I mean, I’ve

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literally, I guess I guess you could say it was a slut. But,

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but I was very, very sexually promiscuous. I didn’t care if I

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was the side chick. I didn’t care. You know, and I mean, I

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was just, that’s just who I was, you know. So as time went on,

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finally, my mother, she hit me the last time when I was 16

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years old. And she we had my brother and I and told her, you

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know, with all the kids had gone home after at this point, you

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know, now that she’s with the fourth husband, and my brother

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and I told her if you know, if this crackhead husband had gone

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out on a bender, I think gotten an accident had to be life

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flighted. And we told her is like if you take him back, we’re

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leaving. Well, lo and behold, she takes him back. So we said,

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we’re leaving. And she didn’t like that. So she tried to beat

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me with a stick and she had hit me like three times. And on the

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fourth time, she went to hit me with it, I stopped her. And I

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took 16 years of rage and anger out on her, and I beat the shit

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out of her. Like I literally just went off and my brother

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heard us fighting and he comes down with a baseball bat. And he

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tells my mom, if you touch her one more time, I’m gonna kill

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you. And so really, because my brother did that, you know, it

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woke her up, I guess. And so finally we were able to leave.

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And she let us go. My grandparents were happened to be

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in town. They had taken my brother on a summer long trip to

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Alaska from Tennessee, and they were bringing him back and I

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asked, Could I please come live with them? And so I was able to

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leave that house and go live with them. It’s I was 16 he was

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14 and we both left my mom at that time within I started to do

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good, but I was still Trying to escape I had, I was going to

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school, I was getting on a roll, I had three jobs. And I had a

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boyfriend and I still was just like, in this Go, go go like

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flight flight flight. Like if I just keep myself busy enough, if

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I just keep myself, you know, I won’t have to feel these

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feelings, I won’t have to, to feel this discomfort and this

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pain. And so I had become, I had become my mom in a lot of ways.

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You know, I didn’t have any other example. I didn’t have any

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other. You know, that was my conditioning. My grandparents

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were also narcissistic, alcoholics and dysfunctional,

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and so it didn’t get too much better. And when I was 17, I

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ended up getting pregnant. And they kicked me out of the house.

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And I went to

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17. And they kicked me out, they were ashamed of me. I was, you

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know, unwed, mother, teenage mother, and they just, you know,

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an abomination to God or whatever they wanted to call it.

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And so I ended up going to live with my aunt, which they were

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going to put me in a home for girls in Baltimore. Because I

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live in Maryland, and four girls who get pregnant and put their

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babies up for adoption and never see them again. And so I didn’t

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want to do that. So my aunt was like, we’ll help you put the

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baby up for adoption. And so I went to live with her in Costa

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Rica, which was great experience, I had a great time.

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But when it came to, I knew what I was doing was the best thing

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for my child, by putting him up for adoption. But it still hit

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me really hard. I felt like a failure as a woman a failure as

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a mom, you know, but I knew I was terrified to be a mother

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terrified, I knew I wasn’t I didn’t have the skill set. To

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properly raise a child, I didn’t have the resources to properly

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raise a child and I was not going to be responsible for

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messing up the life of another human being, like mine had been.

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So I chose that. I went into a deep depression started, you

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know, the addiction got worse. And so from then on, it was this

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cycle of dysfunctional relationship after dysfunctional

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relationship, abusive relationship after abusive

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relationship, drugs, more drugs, more partying. And then five

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years after I had my son, I had my daughter, I was 22. When I

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got pregnant, I was 23. When I had her and the guy that I was

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dating was, I found out that he was married with a fifth child

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on the way. And so I broke it off, I know. And two weeks later

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found out I was pregnant. So I was gonna put her up for

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adoption as well. But my mother had totally like, at this time,

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she had gotten clean. She was in a Alcoholics Anonymous, she was

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working steps, she had gotten a job, she was stable. She was

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like really doing it. And she was with this. She was with this

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new guy, the fifth husband, which I have to say she ended up

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being with him for 25 years. So that was good. But she begged

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me, please don’t give another one of my grandchildren up for

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adoption, I will take her and I will take care of her. So that’s

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what I did. And after that, I felt like even more of a failure

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as a woman as a mother. And I spiraled even deeper out of

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control. And for the first time I tried heroin. And that led me

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down a very, very scary path. I lived I moved to Baltimore, it

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was very plentiful there. I ended up on the streets, I ended

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up living on the streets sleeping in abandoned how they

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call them abandoned minions, abandoned museums, like because

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they have a lot of abandoned row homes there. I ended up

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prostituting myself and doing all manner of horrible things to

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my myself, I shot up I you know, I had sex for money. And so

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finally, I cleaned myself up from that extent, and I go to

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rehab for a little while I get out, I move back in with my

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parents. My daughter is now four or five and I decided I’m gonna

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go to college. And I go again in college in Florida. So I pack up

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everything, and I drive to Florida. And I start over and I

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you know, I started in graphic and web design, and I was doing

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really good. I met a guy I thought he was the one girl just

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knew it, of course. And we were together for two years. And I

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was doing good. I was you know, doing good. In school. I had a

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job. I had just landed a job as a graphic artist and I thought

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really, like I’m doing good, you know? And then I got hit by a

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car while writing my Bicycle. And they put me on the pain

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meds, and it activated my addiction, again, that I had

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been cleaned from now for probably like, close to seven or

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eight years, I had not done any opiates, you know. So um, but I

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still would smoke pot and have occasional drink, you know, if

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I, you know, hang out and stuff like that I just didn’t do any

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of that. But when I got on the pain meds, it started that cycle

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again, it woke up the dragon, so to speak. And so then

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my then boyfriend who I thought was the one started behaving

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oddly, and doing more drugs and like, doing them behind my back.

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And so finally, I was like, whatever is going on with you,

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you need to tell me. And what he told me was that he was HIV

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positive. And he had known the whole time. So we’ve been

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together for two years. And so I thought for sure I had it. And I

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did I don’t like I don’t God for the grace of God, I never got

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it. You know, I don’t understand. I don’t know, but

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I’m grateful, you know, but I thought that I had it. So I

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decided to stay with him. Because who else was going to

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love me with that? That’s what I thought this was my thought

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process. Nobody’s gonna want to be with me. You know, so I ended

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up staying with him. And we just use protection because I kept

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testing negative, but I was like, oh, it’s gonna it’s gonna

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show up sometime. And because I was negative, I couldn’t get any

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support. I couldn’t go to support groups. I couldn’t get

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any, like help in this area. Because they were like, well,

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you’re not positive. So we’re not going to help you. But I’m

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like, but you don’t understand, you know. So again, here I am,

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like, no help, no support. I am. I was going to psychologist and

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psychiatrist and I was on medication. They said, I have

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bipolar anxiety disorder, ADHD, and they put me on a myriad of

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medications. I was, I was, I mean, I have tried every psych

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med, I think that was out at the time to try before I realized

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the none of this shifts work. And now I’m still on this roller

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coaster, and it’s terrible. I so after that, I ended up relapsing

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again. And this time, instead of being the junkie on the street,

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I decided that I was going to be in the sex industry because it

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afforded me the amount of money I needed to to support my drug

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habit. I didn’t have to deal drugs. I just so I became a

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dominatrix I did erotic massage. I worked in the adult

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entertainment business in that aspect. And I had power over men

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that I never had before. And that power fed me my ego, a lot.

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And so underneath though, was a lot of guilt and shame, there

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was a lot of guilt and shame, there was a lot of just lower

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level consciousness, feelings assigned, I thought that I was a

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victim. I was a victim. I was still blaming everything in my

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past, I was still blaming, making excuses for everything.

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And that kept me stuck. And finally, finally, I ended up in

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different crazy, you know, I would just, I would like a

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Rolling Stone, I would end up here and here and here. It

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didn’t matter. I’d pick up and go like that, you know, it’s

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finally I ended up somehow I’m driving large quantities of

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marijuana across the country, Arizona to Florida. And I got

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caught in Texas. Yes. And I got I got probation but screwed that

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up royally. And so they came and picked me up in, you know,

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Florida, and I had to go, I got five years in prison. And so I

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ended up going to prison in Texas, which is I don’t

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recommend that at all. But it turned out to be the thing that

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helped me begin to change.

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And so I look at it as a blessing now whereas in before,

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you know, I did not and I was the victim. But looking back at

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it. I see now where that was the beginning of the transformation.

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I had hit bottom that and this wasn’t the last time I used but

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it was the beginning of the change because part of my parole

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answer was to I made row because I just had a marijuana charge in

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Texas, that’s not a big deal. You know, they deal with a lot

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of marijuana, I only had 30 pounds, that’s a third degree

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felony. So really it doesn’t it didn’t carry that much weight.

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So with all the overpopulated prisons, they were happy to let

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me go. And my parole answer was an in prison therapeutic rehab,

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where they did behavioral modification and cognitive

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intervention. And so I began to learn there how to take

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responsibility for my choices. I learned there what it was to be

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codependent, I learned there, what it was to, you know, have

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these cognitive distortions in the mind. And it fascinated me,

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it really did. And I was just like, I remember when I first

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got there, we had groups every day. And there was a group where

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they started talking about boundaries. I had no idea what a

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boundary was Anna, like, I was like, what, what the hell are

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they talking about? Yeah, and that was my first experience

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with a boundary. So fast forward, you know, I got out

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again, and, and I was doing good for a little while, but then

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relapsed again, this time, I had found meth. And I’d never done

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meth before. But I found it this time, and again, repeated the

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whole cycle, and ended up back in jail. And I honestly, like

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this, it was January 19, of 2016. And I was trying to pass a

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bad check. And I was on parole, and it was a misdemeanor charge.

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And I got arrested at the bank, I got caught. And they said, so

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I knew I thought I was like, Oh, my God, I’m going back to

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prison. This is it. I’m going back to prison. That’s it. And I

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made a decision right then and there. I was, like, I am done. I

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am done trying to do it this way. And if I go back to prison,

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it’s okay. I’ll be okay. You know, and I had just surrendered

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it. And I was like, I’m done with this lifestyle. It has

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beaten me up enough. And I felt there was this feeling

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overwhelming feeling of this is your last chance. You either get

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it together here, or you’re going to die, you know? So I

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did. And I’ve been clean ever since it’s been six years now.

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And I have Yes,

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thank you good relations.

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And I picked myself up out of that. And I immediately

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started going to na Narcotics Anonymous, I started I got a

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sponsor, I started working the steps, I started to really,

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really pour myself into it like, the same way I chased the drugs,

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I chased my recovery. And so in that process, I was able to

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finally move back home, they finally let me transfer my

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parole to Maryland. And I was finally able to be back home

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with my family after 25 years of being gone from my hometown

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here. And so in that process, about a year clean, I had a year

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clean and my I told my sponsor, I don’t ever think I’m going to

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be successful. I just don’t think it’s in the cards for me,

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you know, I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, you

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know, I just that’s not going to be me, you know? And she says,

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Well, I think you need to look up what the word means. And

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research what other successful people are doing to be

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successful. So I, I did it. I was willing, you know, and open

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minded. So it opened up, like I just kind of went down the

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rabbit hole of personal development. And it intrigued me

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that, you know, there was these people who had nothing, they

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started with nothing, and it created success for themselves.

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And in that what is your definition of success? You know,

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I had to that’s changed for me and several, you know, over the

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years several times, where I thought, oh, money equals

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success, or fame equals success or having these things equals

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success. Now, I realized that it’s so much more than that. And

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so I’ve been on that path. I think about two or three years

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into being in recovery. I learned how to I became a Reiki

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Master. I learned how to start doing energy work. I felt really

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drawn to that. And then a few years. No, it’s going on two

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years. It’ll be two years in July 15. I was hypnotized for

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PTSD. I was hypnotized for it. cuz I was having flashbacks, I

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couldn’t control them. It was really, really the meds that I

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was on, I was on all kinds of meds not helping at all. And so

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I saw a hypnotist and I knew the meds weren’t helping. So I was

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like it was I think I was on Prozac. And Lamictal was a mood

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stabiliser and an antidepressant. And you can’t

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just stop those things, you know, you can’t, your brain has

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to reuptake and go through the process of beginning to make its

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own brain chemicals. Again, its own chemicals for that. So I was

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determined, though, I said, this is going to work for me. And I,

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after that session, I got off of those medications with no

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withdrawal, which was amazing. And so that what the

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transformation I had from that one session was so profound, I

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said, I have to learn that I had to help other people with this,

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you know, and so I began to study hypnosis. And after that,

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I think a year later, as I was almost finishing my hypnosis,

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training, I got into sound healing. And I was experiencing

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a lot of physical pain in the body and I had a coach and she

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said, you know, you should, you should look into sound healing.

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And whether you find a practitioner, you learn how to

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do it yourself. And I was like, okay, so I started learning that

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modality. And now, fast forward to now I have my own office. I

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am a certified hypnotherapist and a sound healing practitioner

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and a Reiki master teacher, and I help other people overcome

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their trauma now.

Anna Maydonova:

Niki, what a story what a story. I just want

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to add something. I’m so I’m so grateful. I’ve met you. Me too,

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because and hypnotherapy helped me with my depression and

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anxiety and my shame. And yes, all the fears. And that’s,

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that’s how I I know the power of hypnotherapy. So I’ve also

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wanted to use this technique, this this method to help people

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to free themselves of the tyranny of these feelings. And

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that’s how I met you. I, honestly, I don’t know where to

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start. I have so many questions. Nikki, you’ve mentioned that

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you’ve forgiven all the people that were involved. Yes, in, in

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your trauma? Why is it so important to forgive?

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Forgiveness isn’t for the person who did the harm. The

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forgiveness is for you. It’s for me. I forgive so that I can be

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free of that. I realized that I was living in a story I was

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telling myself at this point, none of the past could be

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changed. There was nothing I could do to change that. But I

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could change how I looked at it. And as I began to change and

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reframe how I looked at the past, and those events, things

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began to change. And so I let go of that story, I let go of being

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a victim, I surrendered it to my higher power, which, by the way,

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I have been able to establish a very, very close connection with

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my higher power with God, I love you know, I love God and very

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spiritual and, and that’s really what has helped me a lot the

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most is the spiritual side of, of learning how to forgive if I

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don’t participate in organized religion, but I do love God, I

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love Jesus. I love his teachings. And I love I love

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that. I love that love is the way you know, unconditional love

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is how we heal. It heals all wounds. And so being able to

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forgive and forgive myself, most of my flashbacks were of what I

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did, not what was done to me, but what I did to somebody else,

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or what I did to myself, you know, and I was tormented by

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that. And it wasn’t until I was able to forgive myself and

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surrender that and let it go that I was able to really heal

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and and move forward

Anna Maydonova:

Niki How was Your relationship with your

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children. Now have you have you been able to reconnect with your

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son?

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Yes, three years ago, my son, I found my son. And I’ll

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tell you, it was amazing. It was an amazing thing. I got to meet

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him. He was 25 years old. And he had been looking for me too. And

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so he came to visit and we had a huge family reunion, everybody

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came and they all met him and, you know, welcomed him. And

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then, six months later, I was getting married to my husband.

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And he was in the wedding. And he walked down the aisle next to

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my daughter. And it was such a happy ending. You know, it was

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like, how could this story, and my daughter and I are best

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friends. She’s my best friend, I was always able to stay

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connected to her because she did live with my mom. There was

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times where I was disconnected because my drug use was so bad,

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it was just best that I disconnected. Or it wasn’t easy.

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There was times where I wasn’t welcome, you know. And I

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understand that now because I was totally strung out. And so

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she never stopped loving me. And she never stopped. She always

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forgave me. And I think that really pissed my mom off,

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because my mom was angry with me and my mom held those

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resentments and she didn’t know how to forgive. Unfortunately,

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my mom passed of cancer, which I believe she was totally ate up

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because of unforgiveness, bitterness, and all of those,

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those negative lower level consciousness that cause that

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vibration that causes the body to, you know, if you don’t, if

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you look at what is what is it an emotion, buried alive, never

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dies, it festers, it boils, and it makes us sick. And I really

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believe that that is the source of cancer of disease is these

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unprocessed emotions festering in, in, in the field, you know,

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in the quantum field in our bodies. And so, yeah.

Anna Maydonova:

I’m so happy to hear this. And the power of

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forgiveness. Thus, this magic, to your, to your world, to your

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relationship, with, with your family, with your friends with

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yourself.

Unknown:

I can tell you that all of my relationships are healed.

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i Yeah, all of my relationships have healed. It’s, it’s, it’s

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miraculous, and it’s wonderful. You know, people trust me again,

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I can trust them again, I can trust myself, you know. So it’s

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been a wild, miraculous ride of wonder I, you know, I like

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sometimes I sit in, I sit somewhere like in my car, if I’m

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driving a lot, and I think about how great things are. Like,

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they’re frickin wonderful. You know, I couldn’t have asked for

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anything better. And there, you know, people are like, Oh, I

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don’t know what my purpose is. And I always used to be afraid

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it would be something I didn’t like. But no, this is amazing.

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It doesn’t even feel like work. It’s awesome.

Anna Maydonova:

I know exactly what you’re talking about Nikki.

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And, you know, I can resonate with the story about your mom

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being in a relationship and seeking validation. Because my

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mother grown up in a loveless relationship. And my, my

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grandmother hated her. And still still does. wishing her death

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all the time she sees here. And when my mom married my father,

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my biological father, she was 18 and those time also trying to

Anna Maydonova:

escape from your family home. She put him on the first place.

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Literally, she was in a very codependent relationship with

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him. And I believe it’s because she didn’t get the help that

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neither. Neither she knew. To be honest. Neither any one of us

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now. Because the the the power of the shame and you know, in

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the pain, it just, it doesn’t allow you to go and talk to

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someone. Yeah. What is your definition of codependent

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relationship? And how do you how do you realize that? Yes, this

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is this is decoded. and its relationship.

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So codependent relationship is when somebody is

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dependent on the other person for their validation that they

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need that person to validate them to make them feel like they

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are enough. And so I in a codependent relationship, I

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would, I would do these things doo doo doo, let me do this for

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you in that brief and this for you and that for you with the

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expectation that I was going to get some sort of fulfillment in

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return. And so a lot of times that fulfillment wasn’t

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returned, and I was disappointed and angry and bitter and

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resentful because I had these unrealistic expectations. Well,

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I did all this for you, you know. So it’s two people, it’s

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two people that aren’t whole, they aren’t healed, that come

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together. So you know, 5050 coming together still doesn’t

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make 100 You have to have 100 and 100, you know, to come

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together and make a hole. So anytime we come into a

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relationship on healed, and we still are seeking validation

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outside of ourselves, we are coming not at 100% we are going

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to have unrealistic expectations for our partner, and we aren’t

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going to be able to find that find that inner peace. Like I

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don’t I don’t know exactly know how to say it. But I can tell

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you like this, I love my husband very much. But if he were to die

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tomorrow, God forbid, my world would not be over. Yeah, okay.

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It would not devastate me because my internal validation

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now comes from me. I am enough. I am worthy. I am I am complete

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and here so that I don’t need anything outside anything

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outside coming in is is to compliment me is to add to, you

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know, not take away from so if anybody is in a codependent

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relationship. They’re going to never feel like they’re enough

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or satisfied, because they’re always expecting that whenever

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we expect to get validation from somebody else. Whenever we put

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out expectations. We’re always going to get let down because

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everybody’s human, you know, and you’re not a mind reader. You

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can’t tell what I’m expecting, you know, unless I articulate

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it, you know, and usually we don’t, we’re just like, he

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should have done this for me. Yeah. You know.

Anna Maydonova:

Yeah. And I know, you know, I know for sure

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that my mother was in a codependent relationship with my

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stepfather. Because when I admitted when I told her that I

Anna Maydonova:

was sexually abused by by him in September 2021. She told me, I’m

Anna Maydonova:

so sorry. I knew it. She knew but she couldn’t bear the

Anna Maydonova:

thought of him doing this to me. Neither she knew how to react on

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it. Neither she wanted to be alone. I’m just wondering, when

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you told your mom, what was happening between you and your

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father? What was your reaction? And how old were you?

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I was 11 years old. And I told my mom and she was angry.

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And she believed me. Because I and I think she believed me

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because nobody believed her. Nobody believed her, you know.

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And so she wanted to she became the mama bear at that time

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there. And my mom as dysfunctional as she was, there

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were good times. She really had a good way of making these bad

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situations that we were in good she and I learned that from her

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how to be optimistic how to look at things on the bright side,

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how to see the the miracle in the in the in the bad, you know

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what I mean? How to see that silver lining. And so she, I had

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to beg her not to do anything because I just didn’t want to go

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to court and be drug through the mud and have to answer all these

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questions and say this and say that and I loved my dad. I loved

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him. You know what I mean? He was I was daddy’s girl. You

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know? I don’t I want to say I don’t think he meant to do it in

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a in an intentional way like that or he didn’t realize that

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that’s the area that he was touching. And I want to say

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those things, but honestly, I think that there was an element

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of he didn’t know. And he was inappropriate. You know, my dad

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and I have mended our relationship. He is still alive

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and we are close. Now. We’ve he’s, he is apologized, he’s

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asked for forgiveness. He has said, you know, I know I did

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wrong by you, you know, I know I should have been a better

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father. And so what are you gonna you know what I mean? What

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do you do, and somebody admits it and owns it and says, Please

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forgive me, you know. And so he’s been a very supportive

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factor in my life. You know, now, we don’t ever talk about

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that. My brother had a very hard time when I first came home, he

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was still active in his addiction to alcohol. And so he

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basically brought it up, brought up the abuse, brought up that

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and called me a liar, and said that I made it up. And I

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wouldn’t admit that I made it out because I didn’t. And that’s

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what he wanted. He wanted me to admit that I lied, and that you

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made that up. And I didn’t. And so because I stood my ground, he

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confronted my father. And this is just like, a few, like five

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or six years ago. And so he brought it up again, which my

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dad and I, I thought about talking to him about it, you

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know, like, maybe you don’t remember, you know, I mean, what

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happened, but this is what happened, you know, but I

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didn’t. But my brother ended up getting the help that he needed.

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And he’s been in recovery. So that I think is healed. You know

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what I mean? He is experienced a lot of trauma as well. And he’s

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working through it in his own way. But yeah, it was, it was

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crazy. It was a crazy time, I was in rehab. And I told them in

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rehab, I was 14 when I went to rehab, or something 14 or 15.

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And so I told them what happened. So they made us do an

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intervention in a circle where I had to confront him in front of

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everybody in the group and say, you touched me inappropriately,

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and it was so I can’t believe I went along with that. I can’t

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believe I let them do that. And it was so traumatic, it was so

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re traumatizing. You know, I mean, this was in 1990. So they

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really didn’t have a lot of, you know, the knowledge they do now

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about trauma. And so it’s very traumatizing for me and the

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family. And everybody because my mom had to come. My dad had to

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come. I think my brother was there, like, and so after that,

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we I remember talking to my dad outside, and he was like, Nicky,

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I just don’t remember doing that. You know, I’m so sorry.

Unknown:

But he was a drinker. You know. So. So yeah, so it still was

Unknown:

brought up even as much as five years ago?

Anna Maydonova:

Well, at least it was brought up. Yeah, this

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many people will die. And oh, yeah, the credit with them, and

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would never ever feel free. In there. Yes. Yeah, will always

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carry this burden. Yes. Nikki, what would be your best advice

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for someone who is going through a similar situation like you

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went through?

Unknown:

My best advice is to find a way to process it.

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Because you you, you got to feel it to heal it. So find somebody

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who can help guide you through the process of, of processing

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your trauma, don’t keep it a secret anymore. Don’t keep it in

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our secrets, keep us sick. And so on the other side, and I know

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it’s so hard to believe it’s so hard to believe when you’re in

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the darkness, that there’s a light at the end of the tunnel

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that there’s freedom on the other side of that pain. But

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there is so much like, please, if I could just instill anything

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on anybody listening. There’s freedom on the other side, you

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can be free from that pain, you can be free from that. That

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memory you can be like there. Like I said, there’s no

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emotional charge there. I can tell this story and not be

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messed up for the rest of the day or the week or whatever. I

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can tell this story now. And it’s not the story that I’m

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living anymore. I had to let that story go and start to tell

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myself a different more serving story. You know what I mean?

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Like some of us get stuck in our stories, we get our trauma

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becomes our trophy. You know, who would I be without this

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trauma. It’s our identity now. And so if that’s you if that’s

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any, anybody who’s listening to this, and you can relate to that

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and you think oh, Oh, maybe I am stuck in this story, maybe there

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is a way out, then please, please find somebody who can

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help you process the trauma. Because there’s freedom, there’s

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a way out. You don’t have to live like this. It’s not meant

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to be, it’s not your play in life. It’s not the you know, the

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path, you know, that you have to be on, you can change that at

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any time, we get choices, you know, in between stimulus and

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response lies our freedom to choose our response. There’s

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that tiny moment in between what happens to us, and how we

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respond. There’s that space right there, where we get to

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choose how it’s going to affect us, we get to assign meaning to

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that. And that space is where we need to live in that space right

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there and say, Okay, that’s how, like, I never understood what

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they said, like, nobody can make you feel any kind of way unless

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you let them. You know, that’s what that means. I don’t have to

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allow even my inner critic to beat me up, you know, and it

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will the ego is a destroyer. You know?

Anna Maydonova:

Thank you, what are you still working on? What

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is what is still left there for now?

Unknown:

Well, now I’m working on transcending the ego, raising

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my level of consciousness. And so a lot of it is undoing the

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conditioning, the social conditioning, the process, you

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know, of the past. A lot of it is just undoing these

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inappropriate core beliefs that have kept me in the cycles of

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dysfunction. So these are well, like, emotional eating. keeping

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myself busy, so that I don’t have to, you know, do scaping.

Unknown:

Yeah, escaping. So so just because you’ve processed the

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trauma doesn’t mean now that there’s those programs are still

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running in the subconscious mind. So that’s what I’m working

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on is reprogramming the subconscious mind to be able to

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even be more efficient and more, you know. Able to be present for

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the people that I’m able to help.

Anna Maydonova:

That’s amazing. Nikki, it’s a work in progress.

Unknown:

It is it’s a lifetime.

Anna Maydonova:

Yeah, you never you never stop. There will

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always be something. But at least at least what’s the beauty

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of healing is that you can recognize that those negative

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beliefs limiting beliefs and negative self talk, running your

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life, literally, it’s not about what’s happening to you. It’s

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about what message? Are you saying to yourself?

Unknown:

Yeah, yes, the most important thing you’ll ever hear

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is what you tell yourself.

Anna Maydonova:

It’s exactly Yep. Niki, where people can find

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you,

Unknown:

I am online at www dot living in the solution.net. And

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I can find my website there. So living in the solution is the

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name of my business because I decided that that’s where I

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wanted to be. And my level of consciousness is to choose to

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live in the solution today, I no longer want to live in the

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problem. So they can find me at living in the solution. dotnet

Anna Maydonova:

amazing. Nikki, it was such a pleasure talking

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to you. And I want to acknowledge you for your courage

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to share your story so authentically, and, and so

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openly. And I know millions will resonate with your story.

Unknown:

Thank you so much for this opportunity. I really am

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grateful that I’ve been able to be here today and share. If my

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psyche I always say and people are like, oh, you know, aren’t

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you ashamed to tell that part of your story is that if my story

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helps one person, then it’s worth being told. I don’t care

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about anybody else’s judgment, because there’s just a

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projection of what’s going on within them. You know, it’s not

Unknown:

me. I’m not affected by that. Yeah.

Anna Maydonova:

Well, actually, as soon as you say, as soon as

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you tell your story, The shame is disappearing. That’s yeah.

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Ladies and gentlemen. Niki, Patrick. Thank you for being

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here. I know it’s not easy, but there is a part of you, who is

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ready to take this journey all the way and I can help reach out

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to me directly at ANNA at Anna Marie de nova.com to get work.

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